Our Cultural Dead Zone

Kurt Andersen wrote a brilliant piece for Vanity Fair in which he examines our 20-year cultural stagnation. We’ve all observed this, I’m sure, but Andersen dissects it nicely.

Simply put: other than technology, there’s nothing significantly different in our culture — architecture, fashion, music, etc — between 1992 and 2012.

Why is this?

In some large measure, I think, it’s an unconscious collective reaction to all the profound nonstop newness we’re experiencing on the tech and geopolitical and economic fronts. People have a limited capacity to embrace flux and strangeness and dissatisfaction, and right now we’re maxed out. So as the Web and artificially intelligent smartphones and the rise of China and 9/11 and the winners-take-all American economy and the Great Recession disrupt and transform our lives and hopes and dreams, we are clinging as never before to the familiar in matters of style and culture.

I also believe it has to do with our instant-feedback culture.

First, decades ago, with fewer options in terms of entertainment, audiences and consumers were trapped into accepting what was there. Now we have infinite choices, and anything that’s slightly unpopular dies rapidly.

This death comes with a thousands of negative (and often ugly) comments or it comes with a total lack of attention at all (with a gazillion choices, even good stuff gets lost). Think about a mediocre cartoon on YouTube or a bizarre niche item on Etsy. If those things were presented in the context of three networks or several physical shopping outlets in our immediate town (respectively), they would enjoy a decent, though perhaps brief, moment in the sun. Not any more.

Fewer people want to stick their necks out to try something new for fear of being publicly — and instantly — rejected. Consequently, fear motivates them to recycle what’s already succeeded. Hence, the endless roundelay of remakes and reboots. (Yes, there are new and different things out there, but I’m speaking in broad cultural/societal terms, and in context of a timeline previously dominated by cultural change.)

One of the reasons why 1970 were so different from the 1960, and so on, was also due to the lack of instant reflection. We know exactly what we look like right now because we’re all video stars. We can tweak our appearance in real time via instant digital photography and instant feedback via social media. That wasn’t as true about 1970 or 1950. We followed cultural trends without the self-consciousness that comes with constant digital feedback. So 1976 hair styles look ridiculous by 1986 standards, which, by that time, a substantial film and photographic record had been accumulated — like a bad yearbook photo we used to be repulsed by the recent past. We just didn’t really know our hair looked silly in 1976, until much later.

Now we know times a thousand, so we make narcissistic, preening micro-changes based on the criticisms of peers from around the world. And those changes result in a homogenization — a leveling off of culture — due to a sort of cultural group think.

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  • Clancy

    Can I call B.S. on this whole thread and line of thought in particular? Your premise (or, rather, take on Anderson’s premise) is so weak as to contradict itself within the first two paragraphs. Nobody “sticks out their necks” anymore? Yet, those “bizarre niche” items and other cultural tidbits are prolific on the internet and throughout our culture? Do you not see the forest because all the trees keep getting in your way?

    Bob, your blog and podcast are but shining examples of the fantastic social and cultural explosion we are currently experiencing. Since the early 1990s, indy film, music, and (to an extent) television have basically transformed their respective fields. Our collective exposure to, and appreciation of, the ideas and beauty of other peoples from every corner of the planet has greatly expanded. These are not part of “a thousand . . . narcissistic, preening micro-changes” resulting in cultural homogenization, but a fantastic democratization and diversification of the cultural environment.

    Sure, if one is stuck in the dynamic developed in the 1950s that describes culture as top-driven, produced by a relative few, and continue to only examine those sources, then sure, I can see how Anderson arrived at his position. But, this largely ignores the way world actually works. In other words, what was a “moment in the sun” in the 1970s is not what it is now (and, perhaps, being in the sun isn’t as important as it used to be).

    • Guest

      Can I call B.S. on this whole thread and line of thought in particular?

      Despite making some good points Clancy you lost me with the opening line of your comment. Maybe you need to buy a smartphone with a time machine app and go back to the 1950s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. Boomers like me actually lived it. We don’t have to watch phony movies like Saturday Night Fever and Staying Alive to know what the 1970s were all about. What generation are you? Gen X, Y, Millenial? Do you know what a turntable is? In 1960 a portable radio with 10 transistors was considered top shelf. Tell me, do you know how many transistors in the current crop of Intel or AMD Processors? You need to walk a mile in the other’s shoes before you make your comments.

      • Clancy

        What is your point, dildenusa? Most of what you just wrote comes off as complete nonsense. My point was that the whole notion of cultural stagnation is completely fabricated and is little more than nostalgia masquerading as social commentary. What in hell does technological advances have to do with that (other than my rejection of the idea that technological advances have resulted in cultural homogenization)? I wasn’t denying that technological advances exist. Next time, before you respond completely off point, put on your reading glasses and try some comprehension first.

        Also, I don’t need to provide anyone with my bona fides, but my age and my experiences are not mutually exclusive. In addition to rejecting the idea that technology is destroying culture, I also deny the abject triteness that wisdom can only be the product of time.

        In summary, thanks for being a patronizing ass. BTW, that turntable comment was absolutely astounding. You do realize that the kids these days revere vinyl and have made it “hip” again, right? Those indy bands I referenced above can hardly release their stuff today without putting it out in digital, compact disk, and vinyl formats.

        • jmby

          Clancy, please, enough with the name-calling and nastiness. People are allowedto disagree here, and dildenusa made salient points. Disagree if you want to, counter another’s arguement, by all means…but go to Yahoo or HuffPo to vent nastiness. It’s not wanted here.

          • Clancy

            I agree that I shouldn’t have used one term in particular, but to believe that I was not the one to initiate the nastiness. Seriously, reread the “salient” points dildenusa made that not only engaged in classic ageist tropes. His comments were extremely patronizing and as offensive as anything I wrote. Is your problem solely with the term I used, or the fact that I engaged him in kind following his nastiness?

          • jmby

            So sorry it took a day to reply, Clancy. I agree the post you replied to was unnecessarily snippy, I just hate to see any of us here take the bait, reply in kind and perhaps escalate the tone.

            I’m agreeing with your posts in this thread, and love the intelligent conversation about Bob’s post and the subject in general. One of the things I appreciate about BCABG! is the thoughtful conversation that goes on here. The other is the respect with which we (almost always) treat each other and our ideas. I guess I worry the nastiness that permeates other sites could always ooze in here. That would be a shame.

            We have a cat in our house we call Officer Friendly. He’s always getting in the middle of a dog or cat scrap, gently nudging the participants when they get too riled. I must have channeled him for a sec yesterday. I appreciate your response, by the way.

        • Guest

          Oh, I struck one of your emotional nerves, didn’t I, Clancy. Well, like I say in my profile, Knowledge Is Strength, Ignorance is Emotional Weakness. And you showed your emotional weakness, not your strength. Maybe you need to go through a little bit of suffering to get my point.

          • Clancy

            Perhaps this is pointless, and I do honestly apologize for the language I used above (but never the underlying assertion that you’re being patronizing), however, the nerve you struck was that you claimed to have assessed my argument, then never actually engaged in anything remotely relating to what I wrote. If you want to claim that this somehow places you on some sort of higher ground, that’s your prerogative, but that doesn’t mean you actually made a salient point (to borrow from jmby) regarding what it is that I wrote.

          • Guest

            Cultural evolution and technological evolution have been intertwined in the 2 million years or so of human anthropological and sociological evolution.

            I could be even more patronizing to you right now than I was this morning but in the interests of collegiality I won’t. All I’ll do is quote from your first comment some more.

            Sure, if one is stuck in the dynamic developed in the 1950s that describes culture as top-driven, produced by a relative few, and continue to only examine those sources, then sure, I can see how Anderson arrived at his position.

            You just denigrated my parents generation and my generation. You got caught. So everything I said in my first reply to your first comment was warranted.

          • Clancy

            Pal, I don’t know who you just quoted, but it wasn’t me. If you just want to start putting words in my mouth, then you’ll probably do a much better job of ‘winning’ debates.

            However, I will add that this quote does not denigrate a generation at all. It is critical of a specific theory developed during a specific time period, in this instance, the 1950s.

    • trgahan

      I agree Clancy. American (the whole western hemishpere for that matter) has been characterized as a “cultural wasteland” since full time European settlement started. Sure, you look at pop cultural from a certian point of view and it looks pretty grim. I personally would like to see the end of every generation having its childhood re-sold to it when it hits 35.

      Anyway, real social and cultural change and innovation has NEVER occured in the mainstream. Since the mainstream is largely driven by profitting off consumers, it will always got with what makes the most money at the lowest cost. But more and more, we are limited to just what the mainstream offers.

      • Clancy

        Exactly, trgahan. You said it better than I did. Put succinctly, this article seems to be conflating “pop culture” with “culture.”

        However, even with that, I would also argue that “popular” has been undergoing a significant redefinition over the last decade or so. What Bob termed as “niche” can now easily become very culturally relevant and financially rewarding under the right circumstances. I know of several people that have even parlayed relatively minor success in podcasting and creating their own websites to television gigs on basic cable. (Not to mention some bloggers who’ve translated their success online to hosting cable news programs.) They reached an audience of (at best) tens of thousands, then hundreds of thousands. In their minds, they’ve hit a gold. They have sponsors, sell commercial time, and can even go on tour, selling out venues with audiences ranging in size from 150 to 1500 people. While not “popular” in comparison to some pop star or comedians that affect a southern accent, they’ve created their own audience while also redefining what it means to succeed in the entertainment industry.

      • villemar

        Although, I do bemoan the loss of smaller-scale “cultural gatekeepers” in the positive sense (cultural advocates?), like local DJ’s who could clue you in to more esoteric/local artists, heck even the cool guy at the record store….or a good film critic that you respected. There’s no Siskel/Ebert/Roeper anymore. I do think there’s a role for these smaller scale advocates, but that has been pretty much demolished by decentralization of media into a million pieces, so the only thing left is pure commerce ruled by the most puerile forms of populatity (YouTube likes, for example).

  • morningsky

    Needless to say Reagan did away with the National Endowment for the Arts. Education has become about taking tests not critical thinking or the arts. The arts have been systematically been removed from most educational experiences because it is considered a waste of money.

    • http://drangedinaz.wordpress.com/ IrishGrrrl

      Regardless of Bob’s point, the I don’t think the disappearance of NEA was a cause so much as a symptom of the cultural phenomenon Bob is describing. However, even if we disagree on this particular point, I think we can all agree that too many generations of young people have missed education in the arts and that does and will continue to have an effect on our culture and creativity.

      • Clancy

        Completely agree. In 1980 or 1981, I recall a special art instructor would occasionally come to my public elementary school and teach us about various aspects of art appreciation and history. This was separate from our regular arts & crafts period. The older we were, the more advanced the lessons became. By the time I finished elementary school, I had probably been exposed to all sorts of art and provided a fairly solid foundation on which to base subsequent experiences. It also instilled me with an appreciation for beauty and the creative nature of humanity (and the belief it should be nurtured).

        I don’t think they do this sort of thing anymore. If not, we are truly selling an entire generation short.

    • Clancy

      The NEA is still around. While the NEA no longer gives grants to individual artists, it still has a significant role in funding the arts. Under Obama, funding for the endowment was restored to early 1990s levels, but has since been cut back a little due to the GOP takeover in the House.

      Reagan’s attempt to abolish it in 1981 failed, largely when his own task force rejected his basic assumption that the agency was unnecessary. Most of the (largely successful) attacks on the NEA came under the George H.W. Bush and Clinton administrations. The Mapplethorpe “controversy” was mostly in 1989, followed by years of budget cuts, with especially severe ones demanded by the GOP Congress after 1994.

  • jmby

    I see the atrophy of non-pop creativity as a product of the loss of Arts education, the end of being able to teach critical thinking and the poor math skills in American schools.

    Also, corporate priorities have put an end to experimentation and creativity. Profit margins have destroyed the process of creating through failure. Failure meand loss of revenue for colleges and universities, architectural firms, arts orginizations, etc. These places have historically been the incubators of creativity, but have succumbed to the dollar chase. Look at even regional theatre and Off-Broadway, once the labs for a healthy, vibrant Theatre scene inthis country. Very little is experimental or even edgy anymore. The corporate for profit producers have put the kabosh on that in favor of ticket sales.

    While NEA funds have been somewhat restored tonon-profits, they’re not enough and distributed differently now. NEA, state arts funding and private arts giving HAS gotten much smaller for most Arts orginizations, so sales are critical to keep the lights on. Unfortunately, the situation has encouraged safety

  • http://twitter.com/bubblegenius Bubble Genius

    Oh, I dunno, Bob. Did you see those Pornaments on Regretsy? They’re AWESOME. And ahem, we make incredible soap. NEW!

    Also, I have to say, as entrenched in the 80s as I was, I could see even then that lots of the hair, fashion and music sucked balls.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cory.barksdale Cory Barksdale

    Oh bologna.

    The issue today is that everything is exceptionally decentralized. I have my own little niche cultural quirks and oddities and I am totally allowed to be contented with keeping it to myself in my own home.

    Whereas in the past I would have to go out to concerts, shows, stores to sample new eccentricities, where they might… god forbid… become popular. Now I’m quite capable of visiting a website to shop, downloading some tunes and not caring one lick who joins me.

    Its not the culture that has stopped, its the collectivization of it.

    • http://www.twitter.com/bobcesca_go Bob Cesca

      Collectivization is in full force and louder than ever! Collectivization is why there are dozens of shitty reality shows and long rosters of reboots, remakes and sequels. No one wants to stick their necks out for fear of incurring the loud wrath of the collective. We like to think technology has revolutionized individuality, but in many ways, it’s amplified our group think.

      • http://www.facebook.com/cory.barksdale Cory Barksdale

        I suppose you’re right.

        I guess a young man who grew up in the #16th most conservative county in the nation couldn’t possibly go online… peruse wonderful blogs that not only present a different world view than he is used to, but also expose him daily to interesting culture… perhaps every morning, awesomely…
        :P Nah, but seriously I do love what you do here and I kind of feel bad that the first time I post happened to be when I disagreed, but, I suppose that’s human nature.

        Anyway, I’d just like to throw a few things out there though… Breaking Bad, Community, Arrested Development, Boardwalk Empire, Walking Dead, St. Vincent, LCD Soundsystem, Casiotone for the Painfully Alone, World War Z, The Road, The Hurt Locker, Slumdog Millionaire.

        So you’re right, there is a wasteland out there… but my god are there some diamonds in that rough.

        • http://www.twitter.com/bobcesca_go Bob Cesca

          Andersen concedes on the TV shows. I do, too.

          Look, I’m not denying that there’s some great work out there. I’m just suggesting that culture as a whole hasn’t advanced all that much since 1992.

      • Guest

        I’ll crowdsource to that.

      • http://www.aquariusmoon.info CarolDuhart

        I’ll make it shorter. Its not the collectivization, it’s the investors. Back when the “greats” were being made, media was either family owned or owned by partnerships. So owners could take risks-they didn’t have to worry about an angry horde of investors demanding profit no matter what, and potentially tanking the stock. So corporations become “risk-adverse” to keep the investors happy. Think about that when you consider mass media content-it’s all designed for quick profit and quarterly profit margins. ‘And the net isn’t helping for them. One reason is that millions have fled mass media for the various niches that can be found around the web, so they find themselves flailing to keep whatever audience they have left and what kind of audience is that? Usually the lowest brow and poorest who have few options and little access to the net.

  • http://www.twitter.com/bobcesca_go Bob Cesca

    Whoops. Yes, we’re in a fabulous cultural era.

    How many times have they rebooted The Hulk recently? How many reality shows are on television right now? How many sequels to Shrek have there been?

    Here’s an experiment: watch an episode of The West Wing, and see if you can pick out significant cultural differences — not including pop culture references and technological advances. That show premiered 13 years ago. Then compare your list of differences with the list of differences between 1963 and 1968 — just a five year span.

    Look, there are creative things everywhere. But in the broadest sense, and technology aside, how are we culturally different than 10-20 years ago? Many of us could go back in time to, say, 1998 and not feel out of place — like we’re some kind of weirdo Futurenaut (time machine aside). You can’t really say that about 1985 and 1965 or 1995 and 1975.

    • Scopedog

      I gotta agree with you on these points, Bob.

      What bothers me also is “cultural amnesia” as well as the stagnation.

      I remember growing up in the 1980s and seeing a lot of new things in the early to mid 1990s. And then….things seemed to slow down. I’ll read Anderson’s article, but to be fair, Harlan Ellison has been warning of this for years.

      Perhaps we’ve become too caught up in the navel-gazing that comes with each new tech gadget that we’ve ignored the slow demise of the arts. All I can say is, as an artist (or rather, a freelance illustrator/designer), I tend to find more enjoyment looking at works from the pulp era to around the mid 1990s. Nowadays it’s just all s/mash-ups. That’s not to say that there isn’t good stuff out there; there is. It’s just that they are truly diamonds in the rough.

      (Oh, and they’ve rebooted the Hulk only twice, if you’re talking about the movies. Then again, it is a new actor playing Bruce Banner in the upcoming THE AVENGERS, so….maybe three times?)

    • drsquid

      Your counterpoint – Callista Gingrich. She looks just hopelessly out of date now. She wouldn’t have in 1998.

      • D_C_Wilson

        Are you kidding? She would have looked out of date in 1980.

    • Clancy

      Bob, you act as if the studio system is the only source for film. We could go back and forth for a long time citing crappy tv shows or movies produced at any particular moment in time. For example, do you honestly believe that anything produced by Sherwood Schwartz is representative of our Golden Age of television? Yet, his programs were consistently the most watched when they were on. Can you honestly tell me that film and television of the 1960s or 1970s wasn’t derivative and/or trite? Anyone can cherry pick to make this point. How about the countless number of westerns that populated the television landscape in the 1950s and 1960s? On another note, how many sequels were made to the Thin Man, or the James Bond series? Did America really need more Three Stooges movies after WWII? How many times did studios re-boot Dracula or Frankenstein films?

      Also, you’re an example of the dramatic change in our cultural landscape over the last 20 years. It’s impossible to separate technological advances from everything else. The internet has not only dramatically changed how we consume culture, but the very nature of that cultural production. Think about the Onion, College Humor, the Nerdist, Funny or Die, YouTube channels, or any number of “shows” that only have an online presence. The same can be said for devices like the iPod and iPad (or any smartphone, for that matter) that are around largely due to the communication evolution over the last two decades.

      Also, how many podcasts and blogs were around in 1991? I get the overwhelming majority of information on almost anything news or culture related from these sources. I get to choose what is important to me. I can easily search for and find the information I want. Twenty years ago I was relegated to whatever my local newspaper, Entertainment Tonight, or CNN decided was relevant. I don’t know about you, but returning to that world would feel dramatically different to me.

      There are people sticking their necks out every second of every day producing stuff that they love and creating an audience for themselves. Maybe most of it is terrible, but that’s subjective. My point is, now these people can find their audience when even just twenty years ago they were completely shut out of even attempting to locate a mass audience for their work.

      • villemar

        I agree that the democritization of information is great, but I still bemoan the loss of cultural advocates and social groups bound by common cultural interests and movements. I just think we are left with increasing atomization and self-absorption which leaves our common cultural literacy diluted; the only other option being buying into lowest common demominator corporate swill and the latest wacky YouTube meme that your friends share on Facebook. I have some brilliant esoteric musical and cinematic finds but I don’t want to be alone in my Ivory Tower with it forever.

  • http://twitter.com/SugaRazor Razor

    Gotta agree with Bob here. Quick, name the last *great* movie that came out. I mean truly great, generation-defining movie. When is the last time a movie like The Godfather, Star Wars, or hell, even Pulp Fiction came out? At least Pulp Fiction was doing the nostalgia nod before it was standard.

    When’s the last time you listened to a truly great album? Not a fun single that you listened to for three weeks on iTunes and moved on, when’s the last time you heard a *great* album? Nirvana’s “Nevermind” is the last one I can think of, it didn’t just change music, it changed people. There has been absolutely nothing in music that has even come close to that since.

    All we’ve done is make it easier to to access mediocrity more frequently.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YM23FX2FBZEC3UVDPZRGCUBIZ4 staci

      Stevie Wonder – Songs in the Key of Life.

      • D_C_Wilson

        The Muppets – The Green Album ;-)

  • muselet

    Shitty reality shows exist because the only cheaper programming would be a test pattern; reboots, remakes and sequels exist because there is assumed to be an existing audience for such things. The existence of such things has less to do with collectivization and more to do with the peculiarly risk-averse behavior of the six (seven? five? I’ve lost count) entertainment megacorporations that own the movie studios, television studios and television networks (plus well over ninety percent of all cable channels, nearly 100% if you consider only popular cable channels).

    Every so often, an executive in one of the megacorps decides to take a chance on something that’s different. Sometimes the project flies (Seinfeld, The West Wing), most times, the project underperforms or flat-out tanks (Firefly, Veronica Mars)—in which case, the exec who greenlit it gets fired. If failure is not an option in an industry with a sub-.200 batting average, risk-taking is not an option. Movies are made to appeal to 17-year-old boys because 17-year-old boys are thought to be a reliable audience, which in turn is why every soi-disant comedy seems to involve bodily functions and men getting hit in the groin.

    I’ve been reading “death of culture” essays for years and I’ve never been impressed. Theodore Sturgeon first articulated his eponymous law (“Ninety percent of science fiction—ninety percent of everything—is crud.”) in the 1950s, when it was a true proposition. To my mind, it’s still a true proposition. The difference between then and now is that more everything is produced and released now. There are fewer gatekeepers now, so there’s more crud to sift through to find the good stuff. And there is good stuff to be found by the diligent.

    Thanks to podcasts posted by radio stations like KEXP and KCRW (and Minnesota Public Radio and Sub Pop Records and …), I’ve heard tracks I’d never have known to seek out. Microbudget online television (Dr. Horrible’s Sing-Along Blog, Husbands, The Guild) ducks the whole studio/network system and sometimes even turns a profit.

    I do agree that instant feedback is not necessarily a good thing for creative endeavors, but I’d argue that the creative environment is in (oh, how I hate this expression!) a state of flux, so no one is sure which gatekeepers and tastemakers are worth paying attention to. Give it another five years before throwing up your hands in despair.

    (Apologies for the wall o’ text.)

    –alopecia

  • drsquid

    I’ve heard good, even great stuff over the last 10 years. Of course, it doesn’t come from this country, so somehow it doesn’t really count.

  • drsquid

    And then you get to the end…

    As the baby-boomers who brought about this ice age finally shuffle off,

    Ahhh, yes, the self-proclaimed Greatest Generation Ever, Because Every Other Generation Sucks.

    • Guest

      To paraphrase Douglas MacArthur,

      Old boomers never die …… They just shuffle off …….. (but not to Buffalo, to the clear white light of stupidity)

  • villemar

    I pretty much wholeheartedly agree with the premise of the VF article and your take on it, Bob; although the only quibble I have is that I’d put the Cultural Event Horizon at about 1995, not 1992. There were still some kinda shitty vestiges of the 80′s lingering in 1992.

    On the music front I do believe that game-changers and entire new genres and subgenres emerge as reactions against other types of music. With punk it was a reaction against the excesses of mainstream 1970s rock, with grunge against what was left of big hair glam metal and maybe some of the more melodic Indie sounds of the late 80′s and early 90′s. But, I personally never got into it that much other than an appreciation of Nevermind…when the big labels caught on that was the time when “alternative” music officially became mainstream. But I do think there was a reaction against grunge domination, but this manifested itself is maybe seven or eight very diffuse subgenres….from trip-hop to Britpop to much more refined “electronica” (like Chemical Brothers, Crystal Method, Underworld)…heck even swing and neo-swing started to pop up around 1995…not to mention lush, more melodic female-fronted stuff like Portishead, Sneaker Pimps, Hooverphonic etc. Oh and let’s not forget the Wu!

    But other than perhaps trip-hop, what new genres or subgenres have there been since 1995? I can’t think of any one that’s not a throwback. Mashups can be great but that’s more of a technique than an indiginous sound. And dubstep…well I don’t count anything that sounds like a massively amplified dial-up phone modem (you can probably trace the roots of this to drum & bass in the 90′s anyways).

    Another thing about the loss of entirely new subcultures…growing up in the eighties as a teenager you could identify with different groups based on these subcultures…you could be a punk, goth, metal guy, into hip hop, whatever. I don’t know how a young person today could glom onto a persona in such a full-throated way today with so much cultural diffusion nowadays. Not that it’s necessarily an ideal to adopt a specific persona to be a part of a group, but at least you had that option and a set of peers that would be into the stuff you were into.

    As far as movies, the one that I think really starts the current aesthetic (this might seem a bit of an odd choice) is David Fincher’s Se7en. Rewatching that recently I was struck by the fact that this could have come out today without a single edit and no one would suspect it was made 16 years ago. It’s all there…the Nine Inch Nails / Bowie version in the beginning, the razor credits, the reverse scrolling. It kind of was the last game changer I can think of, although I think a case could be made for the Matrix, Fight Club (though we’ve got Fincher covered in Se7en), and Being John Malkovich (as the ultimate expression of the fun indie vibe of the 90′s).

    So I don’t really know what the new barriers that have really been crossed in the past 10-15 years are, other than in television. And again to echo alopecia I do bemoan the lack of gatekeepers now, real advocates and enthusiasts that had a big enough platform to get people excited about cool new things that the masses may not have had access to. Now we are faced with either homogenized gruel or our own little esoteric islands of interest that we cobble together, alone.

    • ranger11

      I really have no idea what’s going on these days. Guess hip-hop is big with the kids but that’s been the case for a while now. I kind of miss MTV which seems really weird to me in that they started the stupid reality-TV craze with ‘The Real World”. Maybe I am getting old but all of this shite sucks these days. As far as nothing much changing since the 90′s I kind of agree. It’s pretty much easy to categorize the decades of the American 20th Century but since 1999….what? I mean what the hell was the 2000′s? Did they even come up with a name for that decade yet? Fear and idiocy.

      • villemar

        Yeah, once MTV stopped showing music videos that was the end. The last MTV program I actually got something from was 120 Minutes, which would show late Sunday nights and highlight actual new alternative music. That lasted until the mid 90′s I think, and even then it was ghettoized to the wee hours on Sunday nights/Monday mornings. Now my understanding is that MTV just has shows about teen girls shitting out babies. What a sad state of affairs.