Quote of the Day

Posted on January 12, 2012 at 2:56 pm by Bob Cesca

“I’m looking for reader input on whether and when New York Times news reporters should challenge “facts” that are asserted by newsmakers they write about.” New York Times Public Editor

Heaven forbid.

Oy, oy, oy.

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  • JMAshby

    If you have to even ask that question, it proves journalism is either dead or dying.

    What a fucking joke.

  • Ipecac

    “when New York Times news reporters should challenge “facts” that are asserted by newsmakers they write about.”

    Gee, how about ALWAYS.

    Dumbasses.

    • JWheels

      My sentiments exactly.

  • http://www.politicalruminations.com/ nicole

    Well, the question is obviously idiotic.

    However, given how little truth we get from mainstream media these days, this is at least a chance to have a much needed conversation, and perhaps, a chance to move media in the right direction. [i know, i'm being optimistic here..]
    A comment made on the article that I think summarizes the issue nicely:

    I believe the many comments here that have an exasperated tone come from the fact that we live in an age where raw data is spewing forth in torrents, and tools to manage, interpret, and learn from that data are popping up all over the place.

    Yet a major news outlet such as the New York Times does not use the simplest of these tools (searching the online versions of the president’s speeches for the word apologize or its synonyms) to check Mitt Romney’s major (sole?) criticism of Barack Obama’s foreign policy and find it invalid at best and fraudulent at worse.

    The worst part is the opinion makers such as the Times are letting ignorance dominate the discussion. There is no valid argument against Evolution, nor is there anything but consensus among scientists about Global Climate Change. But doubt about both is beginning to dominate public opinion because there is an impression that “Both sides disagree” or “Opinions vary”. No, the truth is that the opinions of cranks and shills disagree with those of experts, and should be portrayed that way.

  • jjasonham

    Talk about being out of touch and clueless as to why newspapers are flailing (Hint: it’s not about technology). They couldn’t even anticipate how this would be viewed by their audience. They must think we are absolutely dumb.

    P.S. Behold the new fake twitter account of Brisbane’s ponderings @TimesPublicEdit

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7VZNIFV5UXBX5LETCRH34M5HG4 Staci Bass

      They couldn’t even anticipate how this would be viewed by their audience. They must think we are absolutely dumb.

      I really can’t blame them for that. Look at the Republican party right now and the rise and fall of so many people that obviously should not have been on the national stage. Look at the television programming that gets the ratings – it certainly isn’t The Discovery Channel. Their business model is to sell papers and stupid sells bigtime.

  • gescove

    I’m looking for reader input on whether and when New York Times news reporters, and the Public Editor, have their heads up their asses.

  • BuffaloBuckeye

    That’s a novel idea. Let’s try it.

    So, what the hell have the been doing all theses years? (rhetorical)

  • Brutlyhonest

    This made me laugh. Then I cried.

  • http://twitter.com/bubblegenius Bubble Genius

    Gee, I’m sure glad that Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward didn’t have to ask that question back in 1972. The Fourth Estate has become a fucking joke.